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		<title>More smaller churches &#8211; but not in a good way</title>
		<link>http://www.messofpottage.com/blog/2011/02/12/more-smaller-churches-but-not-in-a-good-way/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 08:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#8217;s nothing to rejoice over in this report from the PC(USA)&#8217;s Research Services unit. Since reunification, the denomination has lost an average of 40,541 members a year (net) and we&#8217;re down about a third, from about three million down to a hair over two. The headline (&#8220;Fewer members = smaller congregations&#8221;) says what might be [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing to rejoice over in <a href="http://bit.ly/gjVM72">this report</a> from the PC(USA)&#8217;s Research Services unit. Since reunification, the denomination has lost an average of 40,541 members a year (net) and we&#8217;re down about a third, from about three million down to a hair over two.</p>
<p>The headline (&#8220;Fewer members = smaller congregations&#8221;) says what might be the most disturbing thing about our decline. The average congregation has dropped in size from 268 in 1983 to 152 today. In the same period, the median size of a congregation has declined from 195 to 97.</p>
<p>Fully half of our congregations (mine among them) have 100 or fewer members&#8211;and that&#8217;s <em>members</em>, not worship attenders. God is still in heaven, and Jesus fed a multitude with just five loaves and two fishes, but even so, how many of those congregations are financially viable?</p>
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		<title>Heroes and mentors</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 18:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>luke</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only last night, I was bemoaning how the PC(USA) does such a lousy job of developing new pastors. (I.e., me.) You get an education, you get evaluated on your gifts for ministry, and then you get turned loose on some poor, unsuspecting church. In too many ways, you&#8217;re on your own as a pastor. Our [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only last night, I was bemoaning how the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presbyterian_Church_(U.S.A.)">PC(USA)</a> does such a lousy job of developing new pastors. (<em>I.e.</em>, me.) You get an education, you get evaluated on your gifts for ministry, and then you get turned loose on some poor, unsuspecting church. In too many ways, you&#8217;re on your own as a pastor.</p>
<p>Our system intentionally prevents people from becoming pastors in the context where their gifts for ministry first surfaced. You may be a stellar youth director, but if you go to seminary, you will not return to that same church as a pastor.</p>
<p>We also don&#8217;t mentor our newbies. We&#8217;re too busy in our churches, we&#8217;re too geographically dispersed&#8211;this isn&#8217;t <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Scotland#History">Scotland</a>, and whatever the meetings of our governing bodies are good for, it sure isn&#8217;t mentoring. Unless you had previous experience on a church staff (as an Associate Pastor or a non-ordained position), you don&#8217;t have more than a smattering of experience to draw on as you go about your work.</p>
<p>That was last night. This morning, I read this on <a href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2010/10/heroes-and-mentors.html">Seth Godin&#8217;s blog</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Mentors provide bespoke guidance. They take a personal interest in you. It&#8217;s customized, rare and expensive.</p>
<p>Heroes live their lives in public, broadcasting their model to anyone who cares to look.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Like a custom made suit, a mentor is a fine thing to have if you can find or afford it. But for the rest of us, heroes will have to do.</p>
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<p>Good advice. If nobody will mentor you, find some heroes. Stop with the pity party already, and take some responsibility for your ministry. (&#8220;You are <em>Elasti-girl!&nbsp;</em>&#8221; &#8211;<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0317705/quotes?qt0361989">Edna Mode</a>) </p>
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		<title>Apparently We Don&#8217;t Believe Anything</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>luke</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another problem with the new PC(USA) web site: apparently we don&#8217;t believe anything anymore. Or, if we do, those beliefs are carefully hidden. Now, I&#8217;m on record as liking the new look of our denomination&#8217;s website. And I&#8217;ve already commented, negatively, about a particularly smarmy &#8220;reasons I&#8217;m a Presbyterian&#8221; badge posted there. But I was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Another</em> problem with the new PC(USA) web site: apparently <a href="http://www.pcusa.org/today/believe/believe.htm">we don&#8217;t believe anything anymore</a>. Or, if we do, those beliefs are carefully hidden.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m on record as <a href="http://www.messofpottage.com/blog/2010/07/new-pcusa-site/">liking</a> the new <em>look</em> of our denomination&#8217;s website. And I&#8217;ve already <a href="http://www.messofpottage.com/blog/2010/07/checking-our-heads/">commented</a>, negatively, about a particularly smarmy &#8220;reasons I&#8217;m a Presbyterian&#8221; badge posted there.</p>
<p>But I was hoping the PC(USA) web site would at least be better organized. I entertained the hope that it would be easier to find things there now, and it&#8217;s not.</p>
<p><span id="more-275"></span>It&#8217;s always been difficult to find anything. The organization is&#8230;<em>um</em>&#8230;let&#8217;s say, &#8220;obscure.&#8221; I got in the habit, whenever I needed to find something there, of using a Google search with <cite><code>inurl:pcusa.org</code></cite> appended. That&#8217;s how I found what we believe.</p>
<p>But if you follow that link today, it doesn&#8217;t go to a web page about what Presbyterians believe. It goes to an <a href="http://gamc.pcusa.org/ministries/today/">advertisement</a> for people to buy the dead-trees <cite>Presbyterians Today</cite> magazine! Apparently there&#8217;s a plan to <a href="http://gamc.pcusa.org/ministries/today/what-presbyterians-believe/">add selected content there</a> over time, like this helpful piece about &#8220;<a href="http://gamc.pcusa.org/ministries/today/how-speak-presbyterian/">how to speak Presbyterian</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dead trees&#8211;I kid you not! In 2010! GAMC <strong>FAIL.</strong> Sigh.</p>
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		<title>Checking Our Heads</title>
		<link>http://www.messofpottage.com/blog/2010/07/02/checking-our-heads/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:08:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>luke</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday, I enthused about the PC(USA) website&#8217;s makeover, and one of my Facebook friends went to see it. He&#8217;s a Southern Baptist, and he wasn&#8217;t impressed with this quote on the home page: The pull quote you see here isn&#8217;t quite a quote; if you watch the video you&#8217;ll see they &#8220;punched it up&#8221; a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday, I <a href="http://www.messofpottage.com/blog/2010/07/new-pcusa-site/">enthused</a> about the PC(USA) website&#8217;s makeover, and one of my Facebook friends went to see it. He&#8217;s a Southern Baptist, and he wasn&#8217;t impressed with this quote on <a href="http://www.pcusa.org/">the home page</a>:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/befuddledsenses/4754779739/" title="Check Our Heads! by Mess of Pottage, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4754779739_690710736b.jpg" width="500" height="311" alt="Check Our Heads!"></a></p>
<p>The pull quote you see here isn&#8217;t <em>quite</em> a quote; if you watch the video you&#8217;ll see they &#8220;punched it up&#8221; a bit. What he actually said was,</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It&#8217;s a reasoned faith. I don&#8217;t believe we should check our heads at the door when we go to church. That&#8217;s one of the reasons I&#8217;m a Presbyterian, I guess.&#8221;
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<p>I sighed when I read that, but the way the page looks, you can hope it&#8217;s dynamic content and different visitors will see different quotes. But so far, it appears to be stuck on this one. That&#8217;s regrettable.</p>
<p><span id="more-272"></span><br />
Back when I was in college, I used to hang out with the chess club. I never was any good at chess, but some of my friends were. One day, as I was watching some people play, M.S. suddenly stood up and shouted, &#8220;Why must I lose to this <em>idiot</em>!&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, M.S. is one of the most brilliant people I&#8217;ve met. He went on to do postgraduate work at M.I.T. He certainly didn&#8217;t check <em>his</em> head at the door. But that day, he was losing at chess, and handling it badly.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what this quote on the PC(USA) web page reminds me of.</p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s anything wrong with a reasoned faith, and I hope people don&#8217;t check their heads at our church door.</p>
<p>After all, Jesus added &#8220;minds&#8221; to his restatement of the great commandment to love God and neighbor. (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=145093610">Compare</a> Mark 12:30 with Deuteronomy 6:4.) In the Sermon on the Mount he radicalizes the Law to teach us that it applies to our psyches as well as our actions. &#8220;You have heard it said&#8230; &#8216;You shall not murder,&#8217; but I say to you that if you are angry&#8230;.&#8221; <em>etc.</em> (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=145093652">Matthew 5:21-22</a> and what follows.) I don&#8217;t believe Jesus wants <em>anybody</em> checking their heads at the door. &#8220;Wisdom cries out in the street,&#8221; <em>etc.</em> (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=145093700">Proverbs 1:20</a>)</p>
<blockquote><p>For when one says, &#8220;I belong to Paul,&#8221; and another, &#8220;I belong to Apollos,&#8221; are you not merely human? What then is Apollos? What is Paul? Servants through whom you came to believe, as the Lord assigned to each. I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the growth. (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=145093752">1 Corinthians 3:4-6</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>One problem with the quote on the PC(USA) website is that it&#8217;s divisive. But it doesn&#8217;t have the nerve to say who those less-intellectual Christians might be.  (My guess? The big church across town that all your members left to join.) </p>
<p>If our website had the nerve to name names, people could respond and make their case. They could argue in favor of an anti-intellectual position. Or they could argue that they are just as intellectual as Presbyterians. Instead, we just tar everyone who&#8217;s not a Presbyterian as a know-nothing, while maintaining plausible deniability should someone (very reasonably) take offense. &#8220;Oh, we didn&#8217;t mean <em>you</em>.&#8221; Faugh!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also a strawman. I don&#8217;t know of any church that makes a point of their anti-intellectualism. (Although no less an intellectual than <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tertullian">Tertullian</a> asked what Athens had to do with Jerusalem.)</p>
<p>After 2000 years of division, you would hope that the church has gotten to the point where we don&#8217;t mischaracterize each other&#8217;s theology. You would hope that, even where we disagree, we don&#8217;t bear false witness against each other. (For one thing, it&#8217;s simply <a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2010/07/googling-for-truth-the-importance-of-irenic-theology-in-our-postmodern-world-2/">too easy these days for people to refute you</a>, as C. Michael Patton argues over at <a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog">Parchment and Pen</a>.)</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Do not judge, so that you may not be judged.&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=145093787">Matthew 7:1</a>)</p></blockquote>
<p>But this is the <em>real</em> problem with what our website says. It&#8217;s judgmental. First, it suggests (although it doesn&#8217;t quite say) that God loves us best because we&#8217;re so smart. Even if that <em>were</em> true, &#8220;all who exalt themselves will be humbled.&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=145096973">Luke 18:9-14</a>)</p>
<p>But Jesus made it pretty clear that brains alone aren&#8217;t what he&#8217;s looking for. He concludes the Sermon on the Mount saying, &#8220;Not everyone who says to me, &#8216;Lord, Lord,&#8217; will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=145093830">Matthew 7:21</a>) What&#8217;s in your head isn&#8217;t enough. His brother James points out the folly of a theology that is correct but doesn&#8217;t lead to discipleship. &#8220;You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe&#8211;and shudder.&#8221; (<a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=145093752">James 2:19</a>) </p>
<p>The other way it&#8217;s judgmental is that it looks down on people who <em>do</em> check their heads at the door. This reminds me of C.S. Lewis&#8217; <em>Screwtape Letters</em>:</p>
<blockquote><p>When [the Christian] gets to his pew and looks round him he sees just that selection of his neighbours whom he has hitherto avoided. You want to lean pretty heavily on those neighbours. Make his mind flit to and fro between an expression like &#8216;the body of Christ&#8217; and the actual faces in the next pew. It matters very little, of course, what kind of people that next pew really contains. You may know one of them to be a great warrior on the Enemy&#8217;s side. No matter. Your patient, thanks to Our Father Below, is a fool.
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<p>(This from chapter 2.) Or consider the discussion of different gifts in <a href="http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=145093949">1 Corinthians 12</a>. (Or the whole letter, not neglecting chapter 13.)</p>
<p>In short, this is an appalling thing to put on your denomination&#8217;s website. It&#8217;s the sort of thing you do when you&#8217;re losing a game of chess to someone you think is an idiot.</p>
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		<title>New PC(USA) Site</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, cool. The PC(USA) has updated its website. It looks like a huge improvement over what we&#8217;ve had the last umpteen years. Congratulations to whoever put this together.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, cool. The PC(USA) has updated <a href="http://www.pcusa.org/">its website</a>. It looks like a <strong>huge</strong> improvement over what we&#8217;ve had the last umpteen years. Congratulations to whoever put this together.</p>
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		<title>PC(USA) ordains 1st Iranian Pastor</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>luke</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, this is a small world. Mansour Khajehpour was just ordained by Seattle Presbytery as the first Iranian to become a PC(USA) minister of Word and sacrament. I knew Mansour (a little) in seminary. He was in the class two years after mine, so we didn&#8217;t have any classes together. One of my kids was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, this is a small world. Mansour Khajehpour was just ordained by Seattle Presbytery <a href="http://www.pcusa.org/pcnews/2010/10498.htm">as the first Iranian</a> to become a PC(USA) minister of Word and sacrament.</p>
<p>I knew Mansour (a little) in <a href="http://www.ptsem.edu/">seminary</a>. He was in the class two years after mine, so we didn&#8217;t have any classes together. One of my kids was friends with one of his kid&#8217;s friends, though. They were in the building on the opposite side of Emmons Drive, <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&#038;source=s_q&#038;hl=en&#038;geocode=&#038;q=310+Emmons+Drive,+Princeton,+NJ&#038;sll=37.0625,-95.677068&#038;sspn=53.035373,71.806641&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;hq=&#038;hnear=310+Emmons+Dr,+Princeton,+Mercer,+New+Jersey+08540&#038;ll=40.31288,-74.667951&#038;spn=0.00315,0.004383&#038;t=h&#038;z=18">facing Loetscher Place</a>. Small world!</p>
<p>Congratulations to the <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps/place?um=1&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;q=first+presbyterian+church+fort+scott+ks&#038;fb=1&#038;gl=us&#038;hq=first+presbyterian+church&#038;hnear=Fort+Scott,+KS&#038;cid=11513614160774122547">First Presbyterian Church</a> of Fort Scott, Kansas, where Mansour will serve.</p>
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