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		<title>Jim Collins on Excellence in Church Employees</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I happened on an excellent session from Catalyst 2008 with Andy Stanley interviewing Jim Collins about keeping employees who are a poor fit in a position. Andy says that churches are all about mercy &#8212; so sometimes, out of compassion for the employee, we keep people in positions for which they aren&#8217;t a good match. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I happened on an excellent <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZybQo7daV0">session</a> from Catalyst 2008 with Andy Stanley interviewing <a href="http://www.jimcollins.com/">Jim Collins</a> about keeping employees who are a poor fit in a position. Andy says that churches are all about mercy &#8212; so sometimes, out of compassion for the employee, we keep people in positions for which they aren&#8217;t a good match. Watch Collins&#8217; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZybQo7daV0">reply here</a>.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a great point in there, too: &#8220;The moment you feel the need to tightly manage someone, you&#8217;ve probably made a hiring mistake.&#8221; (Watch Stanley&#8217;s face when Collins says that.) That&#8217;s an excellent clue and we ignore it at peril to our mission.</p>
<p>Another excellent point: instead of giving people titles and rules, give them responsibilities. People should be able to say, &#8220;I am the one person in this organization who is ultimately responsible for [<cite>whatever it is</cite>].&#8221;</p>
<p>(I found this video on Catalyst&#8217;s Youtube channel which has a ton of other content that ranges from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwXFP1U7f5U">Dallas Willard and John Ortberg</a> all the way to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/catalystconference#p/a/f/0/hGcPSIuXZ30">Trip and Tyler</a>.)</p>
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