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		<title>Comment on A Great Time to Be a Pastor by A Great Time to Be a Pastor &#124; Jewel Lake Parish Online</title>
		<link>http://www.messofpottage.com/blog/2012/12/08/a-great-time-to-be-a-pastor/#comment-24</link>
		<dc:creator>A Great Time to Be a Pastor &#124; Jewel Lake Parish Online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 18:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] might be interested in this post by Pastor Luke, blogging at Mess of Pottage: A Great Time to Be a Pastor: The Church is in crisis. People who don’t see it are kidding themselves, especially pastors. The [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] might be interested in this post by Pastor Luke, blogging at Mess of Pottage: A Great Time to Be a Pastor: The Church is in crisis. People who don’t see it are kidding themselves, especially pastors. The [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Starry Nights in Yucca Valley by pastorstephen</title>
		<link>http://www.messofpottage.com/blog/2010/10/09/starry-nights-in-yucca-valley/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>pastorstephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. We are so privileged to have a front-row seat to the night sky. Living out here, I&#039;ve really gained an appreciation for the hobby of astronomy. I dropped by the Starry Nights festival around 6pm and saw you and your son at the final afternoon session. Very interesting stuff. Then I came back with my family for about 30 min. for the video astronomy presentation at 8 pm. The crowd setup was somewhat awkward and the city lights annoying, but the presentation itself was VERY interesting. My 2 and 4 year old were more interested in romping in the grass that looking at the stars, but it was still worth the trip.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. We are so privileged to have a front-row seat to the night sky. Living out here, I&#8217;ve really gained an appreciation for the hobby of astronomy. I dropped by the Starry Nights festival around 6pm and saw you and your son at the final afternoon session. Very interesting stuff. Then I came back with my family for about 30 min. for the video astronomy presentation at 8 pm. The crowd setup was somewhat awkward and the city lights annoying, but the presentation itself was VERY interesting. My 2 and 4 year old were more interested in romping in the grass that looking at the stars, but it was still worth the trip.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;A little help!&#8221; by Hank</title>
		<link>http://www.messofpottage.com/blog/2010/08/04/a-little-help/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 21:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Luke,

Our little country church commissioned our first foreign missionary in thirty-some years on Sunday, sending a member of our congregation, a young lady affiliated with Campus Crusade for Christ, to Asia for a year. (We aren&#039;t her only financial support.)

Thanks for the post. Appreciated.

Hank]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke,</p>
<p>Our little country church commissioned our first foreign missionary in thirty-some years on Sunday, sending a member of our congregation, a young lady affiliated with Campus Crusade for Christ, to Asia for a year. (We aren&#8217;t her only financial support.)</p>
<p>Thanks for the post. Appreciated.</p>
<p>Hank</p>
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		<title>Comment on Apparently We Don&#8217;t Believe Anything by luke</title>
		<link>http://www.messofpottage.com/blog/2010/07/15/apparently-we-dont-believe-anything/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hank: those links are mostly in &quot;store.pcusa.org&quot; and appear to be different ways to buy dead trees. In 2010. Like I&#039;m going to spend money and wait a week to find out whether we&#039;re pre-, post-, or amillenials. Or preterites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hank: those links are mostly in &#8220;store.pcusa.org&#8221; and appear to be different ways to buy dead trees. In 2010. Like I&#8217;m going to spend money and wait a week to find out whether we&#8217;re pre-, post-, or amillenials. Or preterites.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Apparently We Don&#8217;t Believe Anything by Hank</title>
		<link>http://www.messofpottage.com/blog/2010/07/15/apparently-we-dont-believe-anything/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Luke,

Now, in fairness, the site does provide a search feature, and when I search for &quot;beliefs&quot; it gives me several theology-related links. That should count for something.

On the other hand, when I click those links, I get this message:
&quot;Invalid parameter range - contains potentially unsafe characters&quot;

(By the way, as an ex-Catholic I&#039;ll be the first to acknowledge that the Presbyterian Church doesn&#039;t have a monopoly on unsafe characters.)

Okay, in all seriousness, the Church (not PC, not Baptist, but Christ&#039;s Church writ large) does seem to lack boldness.

Hank]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke,</p>
<p>Now, in fairness, the site does provide a search feature, and when I search for &#8220;beliefs&#8221; it gives me several theology-related links. That should count for something.</p>
<p>On the other hand, when I click those links, I get this message:<br />
&#8220;Invalid parameter range &#8211; contains potentially unsafe characters&#8221;</p>
<p>(By the way, as an ex-Catholic I&#8217;ll be the first to acknowledge that the Presbyterian Church doesn&#8217;t have a monopoly on unsafe characters.)</p>
<p>Okay, in all seriousness, the Church (not PC, not Baptist, but Christ&#8217;s Church writ large) does seem to lack boldness.</p>
<p>Hank</p>
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		<title>Comment on The World Turned Upside Down by Hank</title>
		<link>http://www.messofpottage.com/blog/2010/06/25/the-world-turned-upside-down/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen, Luke.

When I think of Jesus saying, in Mat. 19:8, that Moses permitted divorce because &quot;your hearts were hard,&quot; it makes me wonder: how much different were we, back when life was hard and death was common (as, admittedly, it still is in some places)? Presumably the Romans didn&#039;t feel the same about their 18 month old children as we do about ours. How is that possible? I don&#039;t know. I&#039;ve been assured that people everywhere &quot;love their children just the same as you do, and want the same things for them.&quot; Maybe that&#039;s true, but it doesn&#039;t seem likely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Luke.</p>
<p>When I think of Jesus saying, in Mat. 19:8, that Moses permitted divorce because &#8220;your hearts were hard,&#8221; it makes me wonder: how much different were we, back when life was hard and death was common (as, admittedly, it still is in some places)? Presumably the Romans didn&#8217;t feel the same about their 18 month old children as we do about ours. How is that possible? I don&#8217;t know. I&#8217;ve been assured that people everywhere &#8220;love their children just the same as you do, and want the same things for them.&#8221; Maybe that&#8217;s true, but it doesn&#8217;t seem likely.</p>
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		<title>Comment on National Day of Prayer &#8211; One Opinion by Hank Racette</title>
		<link>http://www.messofpottage.com/blog/2010/04/28/national-day-of-prayer-one-opinion/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Racette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Luke,

I couldn&#039;t agree more that it is not the church that suffers from faith&#039;s expulsion from the public square. Our relentlessly anti-Christian, anti-value popular culture hurts most those who are outside the church.

Hank]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke,</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more that it is not the church that suffers from faith&#8217;s expulsion from the public square. Our relentlessly anti-Christian, anti-value popular culture hurts most those who are outside the church.</p>
<p>Hank</p>
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		<title>Comment on Membership by luke</title>
		<link>http://www.messofpottage.com/blog/2009/12/12/membership/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 21:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The structure and orderliness is all very well. You can&#039;t just have a charismatic leader swoop in and replace the leaders and kick out everyone who disagrees. So that&#039;s good.

But.

I see more lively churches that seem to be accomplishing a lot more, with a lot less denominational infrastructure (like six categories of membership and the attendant year-end bookkeeping). I guess the question is, are you willing to risk the bad in order to stay more focused on the good? And in a country without an established church, when you can start a new church as soon as they kick you out of your old congregation, does it make sense to be so focused on these worst-case scenarios?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The structure and orderliness is all very well. You can&#8217;t just have a charismatic leader swoop in and replace the leaders and kick out everyone who disagrees. So that&#8217;s good.</p>
<p>But.</p>
<p>I see more lively churches that seem to be accomplishing a lot more, with a lot less denominational infrastructure (like six categories of membership and the attendant year-end bookkeeping). I guess the question is, are you willing to risk the bad in order to stay more focused on the good? And in a country without an established church, when you can start a new church as soon as they kick you out of your old congregation, does it make sense to be so focused on these worst-case scenarios?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Membership by Hank Racette</title>
		<link>http://www.messofpottage.com/blog/2009/12/12/membership/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Racette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Deck chairs, meet Titanic.”

That doesn&#039;t sound good, but it does sound familiar. A few of us pre-septuagenarians were talking the other day about where our local church will be in 20 years. Our excuse is that the population out here in the country is aging and shrinking: we&#039;re in our own little demographic death spiral.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Deck chairs, meet Titanic.”</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t sound good, but it does sound familiar. A few of us pre-septuagenarians were talking the other day about where our local church will be in 20 years. Our excuse is that the population out here in the country is aging and shrinking: we&#8217;re in our own little demographic death spiral.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Robes by pastorstephen</title>
		<link>http://www.messofpottage.com/blog/2009/12/04/robes/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>pastorstephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great thought-provoking questions. We live in a day when many traditions have grown antiquated and need to be re-evaluated in light of the Word of God and our Great Commission task to reach and teach all people.

I&#039;m reminded of what the LORD told Samuel in 1 Sam. 16:7 &quot;Do not look at his appearance...God sees not as man sees, for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.&quot;

We should be far more concerned about what&#039;s on your inside than what you&#039;re wearing on the outside. Do you love the Lord? Are you committed to the Word? Are you preaching only Christ, and Him crucified?

These are all far more important issues than wearing a robe. If this is a &quot;big issue&quot; for a church, then it should be approached by the pastor with great tenderness and humility, but for the sake of the gospel and practical reasons, it may just be time to leave the robe off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great thought-provoking questions. We live in a day when many traditions have grown antiquated and need to be re-evaluated in light of the Word of God and our Great Commission task to reach and teach all people.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reminded of what the LORD told Samuel in 1 Sam. 16:7 &#8220;Do not look at his appearance&#8230;God sees not as man sees, for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.&#8221;</p>
<p>We should be far more concerned about what&#8217;s on your inside than what you&#8217;re wearing on the outside. Do you love the Lord? Are you committed to the Word? Are you preaching only Christ, and Him crucified?</p>
<p>These are all far more important issues than wearing a robe. If this is a &#8220;big issue&#8221; for a church, then it should be approached by the pastor with great tenderness and humility, but for the sake of the gospel and practical reasons, it may just be time to leave the robe off.</p>
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